Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

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mr.vince
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Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by mr.vince » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:33 pm

Yes. The standard Speccy drive should work. I hope Interceptor will chime in here.

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Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by Interceptor » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:51 pm

Many 3" drives aren't model numbered.

So far all drives from a spectrum of cpc should work. Make sure the drive belt is renewed, bear in mind drive speed fluctuates depending on how stuff the inserted disk is. And ensure you plug the power cable in upside down as the 12v and 5v lives are swapped on these drives.

I've not had a pcw 80track double sided 3" drive working yet though. But mine may be faulty.

Also make sure the slow firmware is used, fast one doesn't work.

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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by hawui1 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:20 pm

Samsung SFD-321B .. more news..
Models /LEB starting from revision T6 have lost the density switch, so the last revision of the /LEB type that works well with Amiga 880K disks is T5.
I successfully tried also a T1and a T4 so i would say that the models of SFD-321B that are good to dump Amiga disks are:

SFD-321B /LEB T1
SFD-321B /LEB T2
SFD-321B /LEB T3
SFD-321B /LEB T4
SFD-321B /LEB T5

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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by Cliff » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:54 am

I'm very happy to report that the Samsung SFD-560D 5.25" drive is working successfully with Apple II and BBC Micro disks.

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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by clemfm » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:45 am

I'm yet to try and do anything with my raw images, however I can apparently successfully create them with:

Mitsubishi drives:
M4851 DSDD 40 Track
M4853 DSDD 80 Track
M4854 77 Track (8" equivalent - Japanese Mode 3)

Epson Combo Drive:
SD-800 DSHD 80 Track 51/5 and 31/2 inch
Drive 0 works for the 51/4 and drive 1 is the 31/2
----------- Need to test this drive a little more as it completes the image, however the "Stop" button does not change back to "start".

Now I just need to order a http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/ so that I can use the images as I am using unsupported formats: TRS-80 Model 4P, BBC Model B (& Cumana 68008 CoPro OS-9 disks), a CP/M based Pulsar Little Big Board.

I don't suppose anyone has a manual for the M4851 & M4853 that they could email me? I have the M4854 manual.

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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by Sword7 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:17 am

Hello folks,

I recently got new KryoFlux USB floppy controller. I tried to three 5.25 floppy drives and got results.

5.25 drives - working
Panasonic JU-475-3B35, Tracks = 83

5.25 drives - not working
Teac FD-55B
Teac FD-55BV

I still am figuring about jumper settings for accessing FM format (TI-99/4A disk formats) but kept got orange-colored marked when dumped. It reports 360 rpm instead of 360 rpm. I tried to remove jumper from BX setting but still displayed 360 rpm. Does anyone know any settings for single density and 300 rpm? Or have I to find working 360K floppy drive?

I will try 3.5 drives soon..

Thanks!
Sword7

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Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by mr.vince » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:09 am

RPM is irrelevant with KryoFlux. Regardless of RPM read, you can have it interpreted differently.

E.g.:

DTC -v300 -i4

This would read an MFM encoded disk at 300 RPM. Usually such formats also have a different number of bytes per sector; set with -z.

Important: Decoder (-i) ALWAYS comes last, this makes settings before that decoder specific.

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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by Sword7 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:02 am

mr.vince wrote:RPM is irrelevant with KryoFlux. Regardless of RPM read, you can have it interpreted differently.

E.g.:

DTC -v300 -i4

This would read an MFM encoded disk at 300 RPM. Usually such formats also have a different number of bytes per sector; set with -z.

Important: Decoder (-i) ALWAYS comes last, this makes settings before that decoder specific.
Ok, Mr. Vince. Thanks for info. Good news! I successfully dumped FM data from 30-years old TI-99/4A disk! See my results here below.

M:\KryoFlux\dtc>dtc -ftest -v300 -z1 -g0 -k2 -i3
KryoFlux DiskTool Console, v2.00 beta 6, uiv.1, Nov 30 2011, 16:25:59
(c) 2009-2011 KryoFlux Products & Services Ltd.
Developed by The Software Preservation Society, www.softpres.org
Licensed for private, non-commercial use only.

00.0 : frev: 32072, drift: 0.104 us, tfer: 175165 B/s, rpm: 360.223
00.0 : base: 3.999 us [99.971%], band: 2.388 us?, 3.998 us, 7.998 us
00.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 000, sec: 9, *H +9
02.0 : frev: 34258, drift: 0.271 us, tfer: 188795 B/s, rpm: 360.218
02.0 : base: 4.000 us [99.982%], band: 4.001 us, 7.999 us
02.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 001, sec: 9, *H +9
04.0 : frev: 38188, drift: 0.021 us, tfer: 213162 B/s, rpm: 360.213
04.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.959%], band: 4.001 us, 8.004 us
04.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 002, sec: 9, *H +9
06.0 : frev: 40612, drift: 0.083 us, tfer: 225385 B/s, rpm: 360.218
06.0 : base: 4.005 us [99.863%], band: 4.006 us, 8.011 us
06.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 003, sec: 9, *H +9
08.0 : frev: 34244, drift: 0.603 us, tfer: 188252 B/s, rpm: 360.214
08.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.755%], band: 2.699 us?, 4.026 us, 8.004 us
08.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 004, sec: 9, *H +9
10.0 : frev: 37532, drift: 0.125 us, tfer: 208636 B/s, rpm: 360.221
10.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.934%], band: 4.000 us, 8.008 us
10.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 005, sec: 9, *H +9
12.0 : frev: 37681, drift: 0.083 us, tfer: 209526 B/s, rpm: 360.219
12.0 : base: 4.006 us [99.896%], band: 4.001 us, 8.012 us
12.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 006, sec: 9, *H +9
14.0 : frev: 35386, drift: 0.812 us, tfer: 198120 B/s, rpm: 360.216
14.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.916%], band: 4.003 us, 8.007 us
14.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 007, sec: 9, *H +9
16.0 : frev: 33808, drift: 0.187 us, tfer: 186643 B/s, rpm: 360.215
16.0 : base: 4.009 us [99.832%], band: 4.003 us, 8.018 us
16.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 008, sec: 9, *H +9
18.0 : frev: 33508, drift: 0.499 us, tfer: 184540 B/s, rpm: 360.219
18.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.913%], band: 4.004 us, 8.007 us
18.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 009, sec: 9, *H +9
20.0 : frev: 35954, drift: 0.062 us, tfer: 200138 B/s, rpm: 360.213
20.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.937%], band: 4.002 us, 8.005 us
20.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 010, sec: 9, *H
22.0 : frev: 36943, drift: 0.146 us, tfer: 206012 B/s, rpm: 360.218
22.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.936%], band: 4.000 us, 8.008 us
22.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 011, sec: 9, *H +9
24.0 : frev: 36938, drift: 0.125 us, tfer: 206012 B/s, rpm: 360.210
24.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.932%], band: 4.002 us, 8.006 us
24.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 012, sec: 9, *H +9
26.0 : frev: 36670, drift: 0.541 us, tfer: 204299 B/s, rpm: 360.215
26.0 : base: 4.005 us [99.874%], band: 4.005 us, 8.010 us
26.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 013, sec: 9, *H +9
28.0 : frev: 36096, drift: 0.083 us, tfer: 201368 B/s, rpm: 360.210
28.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.727%], band: 2.276 us?, 4.025 us, 8.008 us
28.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 014, sec: 9, *H +9
30.0 : frev: 36054, drift: 0.104 us, tfer: 200957 B/s, rpm: 360.213
30.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.911%], band: 4.003 us, 8.008 us
30.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 015, sec: 9, *H +9
32.0 : frev: 36181, drift: 0.083 us, tfer: 201782 B/s, rpm: 360.210
32.0 : base: 4.005 us [99.906%], band: 4.001 us, 8.010 us
32.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 016, sec: 9, *H +9
34.0 : frev: 36218, drift: 0.042 us, tfer: 201782 B/s, rpm: 360.211
34.0 : base: 4.001 us [99.984%], band: 3.999 us, 8.001 us
34.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 017, sec: 9, *H +9
36.0 : frev: 36172, drift: 0.125 us, tfer: 201782 B/s, rpm: 360.205
36.0 : base: 4.005 us [99.886%], band: 4.004 us, 8.010 us
36.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 018, sec: 9, *H +9
38.0 : frev: 36146, drift: 0.104 us, tfer: 201368 B/s, rpm: 360.212
38.0 : base: 4.007 us [99.868%], band: 4.002 us, 8.013 us
38.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 019, sec: 9, *H +9
40.0 : frev: 36420, drift: 0.187 us, tfer: 203453 B/s, rpm: 360.211
40.0 : base: 4.006 us [99.866%], band: 4.003 us, 8.013 us
40.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 020, sec: 9, *H +9
42.0 : frev: 36352, drift: 0.125 us, tfer: 202614 B/s, rpm: 360.210
42.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.961%], band: 4.001 us, 8.004 us
42.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 021, sec: 9, *H +9
44.0 : frev: 36464, drift: 0.666 us, tfer: 203453 B/s, rpm: 360.215
44.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.953%], band: 3.999 us, 8.005 us
44.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 022, sec: 9, *H +9
46.0 : frev: 36604, drift: 0.187 us, tfer: 204299 B/s, rpm: 360.211
46.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.945%], band: 4.001 us, 8.006 us
46.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 023, sec: 9, *H +9
48.0 : frev: 36680, drift: 0.146 us, tfer: 204725 B/s, rpm: 360.209
48.0 : base: 4.001 us [99.969%], band: 4.001 us, 8.002 us
48.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 024, sec: 9, *H +9
50.0 : frev: 36632, drift: 0.104 us, tfer: 204725 B/s, rpm: 360.210
50.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.930%], band: 4.001 us, 8.007 us
50.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 025, sec: 9, *H +9
52.0 : frev: 36700, drift: 0.104 us, tfer: 204725 B/s, rpm: 360.209
52.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.962%], band: 4.000 us, 8.004 us
52.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 026, sec: 9, *H +9
54.0 : frev: 36514, drift: 1.165 us, tfer: 203453 B/s, rpm: 360.205
54.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.945%], band: 4.000 us, 8.006 us
54.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 027, sec: 9, *H +9
56.0 : frev: 35730, drift: 0.146 us, tfer: 199326 B/s, rpm: 360.213
56.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.929%], band: 4.000 us, 8.008 us
56.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 028, sec: 9, *H +9
58.0 : frev: 35770, drift: 0.749 us, tfer: 199326 B/s, rpm: 360.214
58.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.925%], band: 4.002 us, 8.008 us
58.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 029, sec: 9, *H +9
60.0 : frev: 35788, drift: 0.104 us, tfer: 199326 B/s, rpm: 360.208
60.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.907%], band: 4.004 us, 8.008 us
60.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 030, sec: 9, *H +9
62.0 : frev: 35871, drift: 0.978 us, tfer: 199731 B/s, rpm: 360.213
62.0 : base: 4.003 us [99.945%], band: 4.000 us, 8.006 us
62.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 031, sec: 9, *H +9
64.0 : frev: 35556, drift: 0.062 us, tfer: 198521 B/s, rpm: 360.201
64.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.959%], band: 4.001 us, 8.004 us
64.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 032, sec: 9, *H +9
66.0 : frev: 35927, drift: 0.187 us, tfer: 200138 B/s, rpm: 360.208
66.0 : base: 4.006 us [99.894%], band: 3.998 us, 8.011 us
66.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 033, sec: 9, *H +9
68.0 : frev: 35477, drift: 0.416 us, tfer: 198120 B/s, rpm: 360.210
68.0 : base: 4.008 us [99.857%], band: 3.999 us, 8.016 us
68.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 034, sec: 9, *H +9
70.0 : frev: 34862, drift: 0.146 us, tfer: 195752 B/s, rpm: 360.209
70.0 : base: 4.004 us [99.913%], band: 4.003 us, 5.136 us?, 8.008 us
70.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 035, sec: 9, *H +9
72.0 : frev: 35381, drift: 0.042 us, tfer: 197722 B/s, rpm: 360.203
72.0 : base: 4.002 us [99.950%], band: 2.564 us?, 4.003 us, 8.003 us
72.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 036, sec: 9, *H +9
74.0 : frev: 35976, drift: 1.124 us, tfer: 200957 B/s, rpm: 360.209
74.0 : base: 4.001 us [99.981%], band: 2.648 us?, 3.999 us, 8.002 us
74.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 037, sec: 9, *H +9
76.0 : frev: 36188, drift: 0.125 us, tfer: 201782 B/s, rpm: 360.211
76.0 : base: 4.005 us [99.906%], band: 3.999 us, 8.010 us
76.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 038, sec: 9, *H +9
78.0 : frev: 36072, drift: 0.166 us, tfer: 200957 B/s, rpm: 360.203
78.0 : base: 3.995 us [99.885%], band: 3.997 us, 7.989 us
78.0 : FM: OK*, trk: 039, sec: 9, *H +9
80.0 : frev: 13536, drift: 170.992 us, tfer: 100478 B/s, rpm: 360.209
80.0 : base: 2.382 us [88.077%], band: 1.309 us, 2.382 us, 4.333 us
80.0 : FM: <unformatted>
82.0 : frev: 13064, drift: 271.336 us, tfer: 95777 B/s, rpm: 360.209
82.0 : base: 2.419 us [29.070%], band: 1.284 us, 2.419 us, 3.952 us
82.0 : FM: <unformatted>

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IFW
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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by IFW » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:29 am

300 RPM is the default setting for many formats, including generic FM and MFM.
You only need to override that if you actually want some value that is not 300, for example some PC formats use 360 RPM.
Note, that the actual RPM the drive is running at is always converted to the target RPM, e.g. when the drive runs at 360 RPM, and generic FM is selected the flux transitions will be converted to 300 RPM automatically, unless the default 300 RPM gets overriden, to say 360 RPM.

The default RPM for each format is listed with DTC -h, so far the values there are 300, 360 and CLV.

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Re: Drives confirmed working with KryoFlux

Post by IFW » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:30 am

btw: congratulations on dumping a 30 years old disk :)

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