info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

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tomse
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info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by tomse » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:46 pm

I have problems dumping HD DOS diskettes.
it's a teac fd-55gfr 5 1/4" drive, using 2.20 software on windows, and the slow firmware (fast firmware also tested but not used that much)
I've tried a number of other 5 1/4" drives -same issue-, I don't have the model numbers for these.

The output is "Unknown format" or "unformatted" (atm I don't remember what it was, but it was not "OK")

parameters used are
dtc -fmyfile.img -v360 -i4

I've also tried dumping DD disks
dtc -fmyfile.img -v300 -k2 -i4 (the output here said it was running 360rpm, is this normal behavior?)

I was lucky dumping a HD diskette as DD disk, but most files didn't work ofc.

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mr.vince
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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by mr.vince » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:11 pm

If its unformatted, data might be bad or drive misaligned (very common for off-eBay purchases).

If you use the GUI, can you dump raw, too, and make a screenshot?

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by tomse » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:23 pm

dumping as mfm to get result type
dumping as mfm to get result type
Untitled.jpg (83.35 KiB) Viewed 2211 times
Untitled2.jpg
Untitled2.jpg (83.04 KiB) Viewed 2211 times
This is what happens on all my 5 1/4" original disks (which are factory write protected)

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by mr.vince » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:41 am

We need the scatter view. Sorry, did not mention this, seemed too obvious to me.

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by tomse » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:11 am

Hope this helps.
The result is the same for all my 5 1/4" disks (DOS)
Untitled1.jpg
Untitled1.jpg (85.89 KiB) Viewed 2163 times
Untitled2.jpg
Untitled2.jpg (85.9 KiB) Viewed 2163 times

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by IFW » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:09 pm

Looks like you only selected stream files as an output?

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by IFW » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:11 pm

Could you please upload the first few tracks of a disk that shows unformatted, but definitely contains data.
Thanks.

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by tomse » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:39 am

@IFW Post#1 that was just for the screenshots, I originally chose MFM

@IFW Post#2 how do you want them, as stream or img files or both ?

cheers

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by mr.vince » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:54 pm

Stream please.

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Re: info needed on 5 1/4" dumping

Post by IFW » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:49 pm

Just stream files; everything can be generated by DTC from stream files just like as if it was reading a real disk.

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