Apple II disk Grrr.....

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Rakki » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:03 pm

32bit DTC 2.72 should work on XP but there's no guarantees nor official support for XP.

I propose that you could create a dump of Ultima I and upload it to softpres FTP (if you haven't done it earlier, create a ticket on softpres.org).

Try these commands - I haven't checked them but they should work.

Create image of the raw file on UltimaI folder:

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dtc -m1 -fUltimaI/UltimaI_ -i0 -fUltimaI.dsk -y -g2 -i8 -l8
Dump disk and create the image file in the end (-a8 for Newtronics and Teac, -b-8 for Panasonic):

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dtc -dd0 -p -a8 -fGameName/Disk1/GameName_Disk1_ -i0 -fGameName.dsk -y -g2 -i8 -l8
Note:
The density switch is -dd0 OR -dd1 but you have to test it first.
https://forum.kryoflux.com/viewtopic.ph ... 8101#p8101

Homebrew A2 disks or early A2 disk might need -x0 parameter (see more info from KF manual)

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dtc -dd0 -p -a8 -fGameName/Disk1/GameName_Disk1_ -i0 -fGameName.dsk -x0 -y -g2 -i8 -l8
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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by IFW » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:21 pm

Actually, the -a8 parameter depends on your flippy drive type, if it's a Panasonic flippy modded drive, chances are it should be -b-8
It is also very likely that what you need is -dd1, but as Rakki said please do test first what setting switches your drive into DD mode.

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Rakki » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:31 am

Dominus uses Newtronics (flippy modded) so that's why added -a8. Added comment to my post (-a8 for Newtronics and Teac, -b-8 for Panasonic).

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Dominus » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:06 am

Thanks all, as soon as my kids are busy with something/someone else, I'll hook up my old XP laptop. I jst don't trust the mac usb anymore :(

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Dominus » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:52 pm

So, tried on my old XP laptop which seems to have worked better but still no useable disk image produced.

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D:\User\Dominus\kryoflux_2.72_windows\kryoflux_2.72_windows\dtc>dtc -dd1 -p -a8
-fimages/bill/bill_ -i0 -fbill.dsk -x0 -y -g2 -i8 -l8
KryoFlux DiskTool Console, v2.72_Win32, uiv.1, Mar  9 2018, 16:50:41
(c) 2009-2018 KryoFlux Products & Services Ltd.
Developed by The Software Preservation Society, www.softpres.org
Licensed for private, non-commercial use only.

00.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
02.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
04.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
06.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
08.0[00]: Apple DOS 3.3: OK, trk: 000, sec: 1
08.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
10.0[02]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
10.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
12.0[04]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
12.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
14.0[06]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
14.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
16.0[08]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
16.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
18.0[10]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
18.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
20.0[12]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
20.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
22.0[14]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
22.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
24.0[16]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
24.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
26.0[18]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
26.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
28.0[20]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
28.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
30.0[22]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
30.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
32.0[24]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
32.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
34.0[26]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
34.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
36.0[28]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
36.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
38.0[30]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
38.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
40.0[32]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
40.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
42.0[34]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
42.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
44.0[36]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
44.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
46.0[38]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
46.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
48.0[40]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
48.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
50.0[42]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
50.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
52.0[44]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
52.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
54.0[46]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
54.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
56.0[48]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
56.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
58.0[50]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
58.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
60.0[52]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
60.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
62.0[54]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
62.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
64.0[56]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
64.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
66.0[58]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
66.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
68.0[60]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
68.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
70.0[62]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
70.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
72.0[64]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
72.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
74.0[66]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
74.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
76.0[68]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
76.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
78.0[70]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
78.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
80.0[72]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
80.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
82.0[74]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
82.1    : Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
84.0[76]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
86.0[78]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
88.0[80]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>
90.0[82]: Apple DOS 3.3: <unformatted>

Enjoy your shiny new disk image!
The dsk file produced (only 9k) cannot be started in the Apple emulator Virtual ][. The floppy disk is "Bill Budge's Space Album" with four games on it (Death Star, Tail Gunner, Asterisk, Solar Shootout) and the floppy itself looks almost pristine.
Am I allowed to put a link to my stream in here for others to look at? Or by PM?

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by SomeGuy » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:44 am

A quick search suggests that title is copy protected using non standard sectors among other things. You will not be able to extract it to a normal DSK file.

Are there any Apple II emulators out there that support Kryoflux stream files?

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Cosmo » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:10 am

Bill Budge's Space Album is 13-sector disk i think if that matters. When i tried reading 13-sector disks i got very small files out of them or tons of errors.

http://computist.applearchives.com/comp ... ge-18.html

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Dominus » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:25 am

hmm, I think all my California Pacific games are 13 sector ones. AND in that article it is stated that it is in the DOS 3.2 format. Which means it has to be read with -i7, right?

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by IFW » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:11 pm

Please contact Rakki via PM.

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Re: Apple II disk Grrr.....

Post by Cosmo » Mon May 07, 2018 10:12 am

SomeGuy wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:44 am
A quick search suggests that title is copy protected using non standard sectors among other things. You will not be able to extract it to a normal DSK file.

Are there any Apple II emulators out there that support Kryoflux stream files?
You'd need to crack the non-standard disk and get it saved up as .dsk in order to use it. And no, there's no known emulators that can use stream files.

There's an option for all this coming however (that i wont mention here for obious reasons/conflict).
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